They are also based in Berlin, and I am sure no one there is naive. They are a smart young company, and they are no doubt aware of the pirate market. In the case of abletin live, I am halfway convinced that the majority of the pirated copies come from ableton HQ itself (or they are at least privvy to it). a certain school of thought on these threads would have me sent to guantanamo for that admition ) Now I own the full version of 6 together with both instruments (I know, I know I am bad. I came to ableton via a pirate copy it has to be said. More people bought ableton via a pirated copy, than via a legal demo version!!! Viewed from a certain perspective it is marketing genius. I have had many discussions with a friend of mines who is a marketing graduate, and as far as we are concerned, there are probably many companies who deliberately tolerate (or actually generate) the pirated copies of their product that are floating around. For me this lost revenue argument is old material borrowed from the music industry where the argument is probably vaild, since the cost of a record/CD is affordable compared to the cost of a program such as ableton live.

I especially liked/agreed with your views on 'lost revenue' (which, morals aside, is actaully what it is all about). I read your linked post, and it made a lot of sense.

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